Monday, 13 June 2011

So I sold the mineral rights to Amamake....

 :02:32 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > i was wondering if we could make some sort of deal
 :02:40 ] Anabaric > whats on offer ?
 :02:40 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > with your ceo
 :03:03 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > well our corp is at war with The Junkyard Dogs
 :03:17 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we are a new corp and we cant fight this war alone
 :03:35 ] Anabaric > you want to enlist a merc corp ?
 :03:56 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > depends on the costs like i said we are a new corp and dont have alot right now
 :04:08 ] Anabaric > high sec war ?
 :04:26 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we could do it here in anamake
 :04:35 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we moved our office here
 :05:19 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we can fight it here
 :05:28 ] Anabaric > thats a dangerous move without paying rent to Heretic
 :05:46 ] Anabaric > you haven't paid for blue standings, thus are legal target
 :05:55 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we did it out of desperation
 :05:58 ] Anabaric > JYD is least of your worries if your hanging out here
 :06:05 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we know you guys like to kill people
 :06:24 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we have no options
 :06:28 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we are desperate
 :06:38 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we dont want to close our corp
 :06:55 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > what are our options
 :06:55 ] Anabaric > what does your corp do?
 :07:03 ] Anabaric > PVE Mining? PvP ?
 :07:09 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we do a bit of everything at the moment
 :07:17 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > mostly pve and mining
 :07:31 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > cause we dont have the skills to fit ships properly
 :07:38 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > for pvp
 :08:04 ] Anabaric > mining rights in AMamake are currently quite expensive due to the high value ores in system
 :08:28 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we dont want anything like that we just want help with the war
 :08:28 ] Anabaric > how many people are you looking at brining into system
 :09:01 ] Anabaric > you have 29 members, how many accounts is that ?
 :09:12 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > around 25
 :09:32 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > they have like 30 members
 :09:38 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > but i know they have dreads
 :09:49 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > and some carriars
 :10:03 ] Anabaric > then stay in highsec where they can't use them
 :10:06 ] Anabaric > :D
 :10:29 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > lol there brining alot of people and we just dont have the skills to fight them
 :10:36 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > i know we can work something out
 :10:58 ] Anabaric > well bring your people into system, lurk in stations
 :11:08 ] Anabaric > they will come and camp you, and die
 :11:09 ] Anabaric > simples
 :11:10 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > thats what we are doing
 :11:24 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > and we dont want to leave you guys in a bind if they bring in a dread
 :11:33 ] Anabaric > you won't
 :11:53 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > so what about setting up a trap
 :12:45 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > how much would it cost to get an alliance
 :13:43 ] Anabaric > hang on will find out
 :14:13 ] Anabaric > Erehwon Rorschach
 :14:18 ] Anabaric > is our finance officer
 :14:18 ] Erehwon Rorschach > Hi
 :14:29 ] Anabaric > he will assist in payment transations
 :14:33 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > is he on
 :14:40 ] Anabaric > ^^ look up
 :14:49 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > lol
 :14:59 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > so whats it gonna take for an alliance
 :15:21 ] Anabaric > Ammaran Kel'Kek is having some problems with jUnkyarddogs and is looking for an alliance / blue standings for the near future
 :15:37 ] Erehwon Rorschach > is it just for yourself?
 :15:45 ] Edward James Wade > Hello
 :15:53 ] Anabaric > they have moved corp office to system approx 25 members
 :15:53 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > no its for our corp
 :15:55 ] Erehwon Rorschach > Hi there
 :16:12 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > hey hey
 :16:13 ] Anabaric > Edward James Wade is who ?
 :16:25 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > he is one of our officers
 :16:38 ] Erehwon Rorschach > that's fine, nice to meet you
 :16:45 ] Edward James Wade > i must aplogise for our rashness in the office situation
 :16:49 ] Edward James Wade > Nice to meet you to
 :17:04 ] Erehwon Rorschach > Well your looking for blue standing for your entire corp, correct?
 :17:13 ] Edward James Wade > That is correct
 :17:22 ] Edward James Wade > i understand you will have terms
 :18:15 ] Erehwon Rorschach > We can provide Capital support, logistics ship moving etc and the allowance of Ama and surrounding systems. Obviously this comes at a cost
 :18:31 ] Anabaric > (Cap support extra )
 :19:10 ] Anabaric > will you be needing a moon for POS ?
 :19:38 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > that would be awsome
 :20:10 ] Edward James Wade > This is fully understandable, but we can also hopefully provide you with materials from mining or even things we manufacture obviously if you will consider us mining in your system, we are currently or were mining in alakgur, until we got war decked
 :20:54 ] Edward James Wade > The pos maybe a bit ambitious for us at the moment seen as we are still trying to get steady income from planets to support one
 :21:11 ] Anabaric > ok, starting price for moons is 300m/week this gets you a basic moon, if you want high value moon, and reaction arrays then 500m.
 :21:21 ] Anabaric > payable 1month in advance.
 :21:39 ] Anabaric > to deadly badger who is our moon director
 :22:26 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > ok we can work that out after this war is over none of the other stuff matters at the moment
 :22:33 ] Edward James Wade > what if we did not take the moon for the moment, until we are financially steady and we have regained control of the war. What if it was just for alliance for your system and we agree on miniing or no mining rights we carry on about our business with
 :22:46 ] Edward James Wade > your help or assitance as you would call it
 :22:54 ] Erehwon Rorschach > to mine alone will cost around 200mil a week again one month in advance and the rest would be arranged as needed
 :23:13 ] Edward James Wade > understood, and the alliance ?
 :23:31 ] Anabaric > mining rights gives you allowance to mine and extract all ore from system
 :23:46 ] Erehwon Rorschach > you would be looking to join BANE or just have blue standing?
 :23:47 ] Edward James Wade > thats very generous
 :24:02 ] Edward James Wade > join Bane as members or as an alliance ?
 :24:06 ] Anabaric > we could work on percentage, however activity on your behald
 :24:09 ] Anabaric > behalf.
 :24:22 ] Anabaric > until UT is over no offical alliance could be entered into.
 :24:29 ] Edward James Wade > that is a very intriguing deal
 :24:43 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > Whats UT
 :24:50 ] Anabaric > torney
 :25:10 ] Anabaric > spies issues
 :25:17 ] Edward James Wade > ahh yes thats understandable when will the tounry finish?
 :25:44 ] Anabaric > so we are discussing mining rights for all belts, full mineral extraction, and allowing corp hanger in system correct ?
 :26:09 ] Anabaric > all other options to be discusssed after the tournement ends in i think 2 weeks ?
 :26:11 ] Edward James Wade > yes that is correct
 :26:34 ] Edward James Wade > 2 weeks might be a bit long
 :26:50 ] Edward James Wade > sorry may i invite ammaran back to chat ?
 :26:55 ] Anabaric > you can mine in the mean time, however full alliance membership cannot happen
 :27:06 ] Anabaric > you may.
 :27:12 ] Erehwon Rorschach > but alliance protection and blue standing will happen.
 :28:01 ] Anabaric > [21:25:44] Anabaric > so we are discussing mining rights for all belts, full mineral extraction, and allowing corp hanger in system correct ?
 :28:11 ] Edward James Wade > yes correct
 :28:16 ] Anabaric > is what we are discussing
 :28:21 ] Edward James Wade > yes
 :28:29 ] Anabaric > this will cost you 800m for the month
 :28:49 ] Edward James Wade > so long as we have protect against the Junkyard Dogs
 :29:02 ] Anabaric > they will be killed on sight
 :29:31 ] Edward James Wade > sounds like a good deal
 :29:51 ] Anabaric > Ok, we have an accord
 :29:58 ] Anabaric > Erehwon Rorschach do you agree ?
 :30:09 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > hold on one second
 :30:20 ] Edward James Wade > pne second i dont mean to seem like im wasting your time
 :30:24 ] Edward James Wade > one*
 :30:30 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > how much would it cost for protection against the junk yard dogs
 :30:31 ] Edward James Wade > sottu ammaran
 :30:35 ] Edward James Wade > sorry(
 :30:35 ] Erehwon Rorschach > yeah I agree, thats correct and on standard terms we have in place
 :31:00 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we can worry about mining rights at another time
 :31:05 ] Anabaric > they have no aggrement with us, therefore they will be destroyed on sight.
 :31:32 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > so would you be willing to set a trap for them
 :32:05 ] Anabaric > if you want them set as high priority target, then it will be additional 200m pcm to have them set to orange.
 :32:10 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > they do have bounties
 :32:15 ] Anabaric > sorry not pcm
 :32:18 ] Anabaric > p/w
 :32:29 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > would you war deck them
 :32:36 ] Edward James Wade > what woudl it cost if you war decked them and we paid for it
 :32:42 ] Edward James Wade > as for the war deck i mean ?
 :32:56 ] Anabaric > we don't wardec :)
 :33:00 ] Anabaric > we are -10
 :33:06 ] Anabaric > it really makes no difference
 :33:21 ] Erehwon Rorschach > move to our system, pay the costs and they will come to get you. Thus basically being baited to there own deaths
 :33:24 ] Edward James Wade > so 200 mill would be protection correct ?
 :34:07 ] Anabaric > 200m for mining extraction rights
 :34:23 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > what about for just protection
 :34:23 ] Anabaric > additonal 200m for them to be set orange / high priority
 :34:24 ] Erehwon Rorschach > Anabaric > they have no aggrement with us, therefore they will be destroyed on sight.
 :34:35 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > lol sorry
 :34:46 ] Anabaric > you are looking at a 400m p/w package
 :35:02 ] Anabaric > however i'd take the 200m, as they will be killed anyway :D
 :35:13 ] Anabaric > so 800m or 1600m it is your isk
 :35:34 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > how much just to move freely here
 :35:40 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > so you wont kill us
 :35:46 ] Erehwon Rorschach > this will allow you to carry on operating from today. You'd gain access to the area and not be stuck in a station
 :35:47 ] Edward James Wade > DOnt get me wrong we mainly want protection rights, more than the mining rights, it was a whim, if this goes accordingly and well for us and we get along in Amamakem then we would be happy to consider paying the extra for the mining rights, im sorry
 :35:50 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > so we can move all of our people here
 :36:00 ] Edward James Wade > i think i led you astray with the mining and the junkyard
 :36:16 ] Anabaric > hmmm. you don't seem to be taking this seriously, keep changing terms, etc
 :36:24 ] Anabaric > we have been resonable in our offers
 :36:30 ] Edward James Wade > Im sorry we are taking this very seriously
 :36:30 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we are taking it serously
 :36:34 ] Anabaric > this is a very dangerous system to be in.
 :36:45 ] Edward James Wade > we have a very grave problem that needs to be solved
 :36:48 ] Anabaric > you have been offered a package
 :36:51 ] Anabaric > do you accept ?
 :36:55 ] Erehwon Rorschach > Ok, well basically if you move to Ama then you'll get the mining and protection in one package.
 :36:59 ] Anabaric > if not i'm wasting my time
 :37:10 ] Edward James Wade > Thats something i dont want to do
 :37:24 ] Edward James Wade > you did mention 2 weeks trhough
 :37:37 ] Anabaric > 2 weeks is the alliance tournement
 :38:03 ] Anabaric > you cannot become a member during this time, we are not recruiting in any way shape or form, due to the spy risk
 :38:16 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > ok that make sense
 :38:20 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > we got ya
 :38:20 ] Anabaric > as i said eariler
 :38:23 ] Anabaric > ...
 :38:41 ] Anabaric > so 800m for the months mining / activity
 :39:00 ] Anabaric > and additional 800m if you want JYD to be high priority
 :39:11 ] Anabaric > do you agree ?
 :39:56 ] Edward James Wade > You said 200 mill before for mining rights, then you said extra 200 for protection correct i dont want to waste your time but we cannot afford 800mill a month
 :40:08 ] Anabaric > 200 per week
 :40:16 ] Anabaric > = 800m per month
 :40:26 ] Edward James Wade > Understanable i must of read it wrong
 :40:49 ] Anabaric > you cannot afford 800m ?
 :40:49 ] Edward James Wade > may we havea think about it and confer with other directors and the CEO
 :41:02 ] Anabaric > seriously fold your corp
 :41:10 ] Anabaric > thats less than 2x GTC
 :41:11 ] Edward James Wade > we may be ableto but its not jurisditcion to spend that much in one go
 :41:39 ] Anabaric > can you afford your current week ?
 :41:44 ] Edward James Wade > Wuth all respect you are a much larger corp than we are
 :41:48 ] Edward James Wade > Yes we can afford current week
 :42:03 ] Anabaric > Ereh, can we make acception and take one week in advance ?
 :42:07 ] Edward James Wade > but please let me get in touch with the CEO and otrhr director
 :42:15 ] Edward James Wade > other*
 :42:33 ] Erehwon Rorschach > Yes one week in advance would be fine, that way you can sample the area and see what you think
 :42:41 ] Edward James Wade > Hmm very truwe
 :42:46 ] Erehwon Rorschach > without over commiting
 :42:51 ] Edward James Wade > okay, i see eye to eye now
 :43:00 ] Edward James Wade > so if we dont like it you wont try and kill us for refusing ?
 :43:07 ] Edward James Wade > and you keep your word and honor it ?
 :43:08 ] Anabaric > OK, pay the man so i can get back to my dinner
 :43:32 ] Anabaric > my word to the letter you have an accord
 :43:45 ] Erehwon Rorschach > 200mil and you have one weeks access to mine and sample the area
 :44:08 ] Edward James Wade > And the protection
 :44:15 ] Edward James Wade > then we have the deal
 :44:18 ] Anabaric > all ore removed is yours without issue, we will not take a percentage
 :44:28 ] Anabaric > JYD will be shot on sight
 :44:47 ] Edward James Wade > yes thats understandabel but i dont think we will be mining until we know its safe for us in sesnse of TYJD
 :45:01 ] Edward James Wade > Keep to your word and the money is yours
 :45:09 ] Anabaric > fair enough, what you choose to do with the roids/mins is your call
 :45:36 ] Edward James Wade > one more question will the other corps bother us ?
 :45:59 ] Anabaric > we can only speak for BANE.
 :46:14 ] Anabaric > however we control Amamake and all roids/mins
 :46:23 ] Erehwon Rorschach > BANE controls the area
 :46:24 ] Anabaric > you will find only 2 control towers in system.
 :46:31 ] Anabaric > one is ours, the other is offline
 :46:42 ] Anabaric > we own Amamake.
 :47:19 ] Anabaric > you paid yet ?
 :47:21 ] Edward James Wade > Okay, understood so if all goes well after 2 weeks we could make you a tidy profit in 2 weeks we can deal an alliance and talk a little more
 :47:29 ] Erehwon Rorschach > exactly
 :47:36 ] Edward James Wade > until then i will wire the 200 mill to Erehwon
 :47:43 ] Anabaric > ok, we renegotiate in 1 week
 :47:48 ] Edward James Wade > but please let me meet him in person before i do so long as thats okay withhim
 :48:01 ] Anabaric > INRL ?
 :48:04 ] Anabaric > ^^
 :48:07 ] Edward James Wade > no lol
 :48:15 ] Edward James Wade > In amamake
 :48:25 ] Edward James Wade > this is a trust issue
 :48:31 ] Edward James Wade > this is so i can trust you and you can trust me
 :48:51 ] Anabaric > ok fly to p4 m1
 :48:59 ] Edward James Wade > okay be there in 5 minutes
 :49:04 ] Anabaric > DO NOT AGRESS!
 :49:08 ] Edward James Wade > i will come alone
 :49:17 ] Erehwon Rorschach > I shall be there shortly
 :52:01 ] Edward James Wade > I just got pidded
 :52:06 ] Edward James Wade > podded buy lukka
 :52:16 ] Anabaric > ah
 :52:22 ] Anabaric > did you come in via oso ?
 :52:22 ] Edward James Wade > Im sorry you just lost yourself a deal i cant trsut you
 :52:27 ] Edward James Wade > yes
 :52:33 ] Anabaric > told you we own amamake
 :52:36 ] Anabaric > you have no standings
 :52:41 ] Edward James Wade > i just lost 60 mill in a ship and also 50 mill implants
 :52:41 ] Anabaric > you ded.
 :53:06 ] Erehwon Rorschach > no isk has been transfered, I can't set an accord until it has.
 :53:14 ] Edward James Wade > That was the point
 :53:16 ] Edward James Wade > of the meeting
 :53:39 ] Anabaric > well you didn't say you were coming in via OSO
 :53:45 ] Anabaric > i thought you were in system ?
 :53:49 ] Anabaric > what ship were you in ?
 :54:05 ] Erehwon Rorschach > I can come to meet you, where about are you?
 :54:15 ] Edward James Wade > well currently in frarn
 :55:43 ] Anabaric > frarn is highsec
 :55:46 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > I can come to the meeting
 :55:50 ] Edward James Wade > Yes where do you suggest ?
 :56:00 ] Erehwon Rorschach > I can come to Frarn
 :56:00 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > im sitting in 6 moon 8
 :56:07 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > nvm
 :56:18 ] Edward James Wade > small thing is i jsut lost 120 mill
 :56:21 ] Anabaric > p4m1
 :56:37 ] Anabaric > through your own stupidity
 :56:48 ] Anabaric > we own OSO gate / Amamake
 :56:56 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > im on my way
 :56:58 ] Anabaric > you have no standings / no mineral rights
 :57:13 ] Edward James Wade > funny thing is i have been in amamake all day watching oso gate
 :57:21 ] Edward James Wade > and you pod me now ?
 :57:27 ] Anabaric > you didn't warn us that you were coming in though the most heaviy camped gate
 :57:31 ] Anabaric > :(
 :57:46 ] Anabaric > if you'd have been watching the gate you'd know what was going on
 :57:50 ] Edward James Wade > im the one with the sad face, i just lost what i worked hard for
 :57:53 ] Erehwon Rorschach > gate fire and targets they just go pew pew crazy unless told otherwise
 :58:02 ] Edward James Wade > yes i was hoping i would catch a break
 :58:13 ] Erehwon Rorschach > Edward I am in Frarn
 :58:15 ] Anabaric > round here you pay for hope
 :58:16 ] Edward James Wade > well please next time tell them
 :58:28 ] Edward James Wade > i liked that ship lol
 :58:35 ] Anabaric > come in in a pod
 :58:36 ] Anabaric > safer
 :59:02 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > lol im in a shuttle
 :59:14 ] Anabaric > yep i'm in a cynabal
 :59:15 ] Edward James Wade > not worth anything why woudl they fire
 :59:18 ] Edward James Wade > lol
 :59:25 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > nice ship
 :59:32 ] Edward James Wade > One thing though i need to mention
 :59:48 ] Edward James Wade > Lukka, he is friends with the CEO from JYD
 00:10 ] Anabaric > Lukka is a bitch
 00:22 ] Erehwon Rorschach > an individual being friends doens't make everyone a friend
 00:22 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > lol
 00:23 ] Edward James Wade > wasnt expecting that from you
 00:31 ] Anabaric > but he is our bitch and will abide by rules
 00:39 ] Edward James Wade > thank you
 00:45 ] Edward James Wade > Ammaran you still alive ?
 00:50 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > yea im good
 01:01 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > there not targeting me at all
 01:01 ] Anabaric > yup he is safe, sitting 90km from me
 01:03 ] Edward James Wade > then we havea deal for a week then we can renegotiate
 01:10 ] Edward James Wade > lol
 01:21 ] Anabaric > [22:00:56] Lukka > no clue who JYD are
 01:23 ] Edward James Wade > 7 days from this point and time
 01:28 ] Anabaric > he doesn't know them
 01:29 ] Edward James Wade > hmmm
 01:41 ] Anabaric > lots of people say Lukka is their friend
 01:45 ] Edward James Wade > can he at least apologise for my ship
 01:56 ] Erehwon Rorschach > 7 days, from the moment the wallet flashes.
 02:44 ] Edward James Wade > Deal is done
 03:13 ] Anabaric > www.heretic-nation.com
 03:14 ] Erehwon Rorschach > Isk received, time and date set
 03:28 ] Anabaric > i will put something up on the public side to show you
 05:11 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > ok cool
 05:12 ] Anabaric > nice doing business, enjoy your ore.
 05:17 ] Anabaric > o7 fly safe
 05:31 ] Erehwon Rorschach > o7
 05:36 ] Edward James Wade > Take care
 05:41 ] Ammaran Kel'Kek > take it easy

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 TLDR: Sold the mineral extraction rights, but without the blue standings... ooops!

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